Comments for ludo's blog http://ludoa.wordpress.com Fri, 16 May 2008 03:56:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Martin McWhorter http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-82 Martin McWhorter Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:44:09 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-82 I have the Tora with Oracle (with and w/out KDE) up at: http://www.box.net/shared/bzq9z2nuy9 I have the Tora with Oracle (with and w/out KDE) up at:
http://www.box.net/shared/bzq9z2nuy9

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-76 ludoa Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:48:10 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-76 Glad to hear that, Martin -- especially as Ubuntu is set to be release in seven days, if I'm not mistaken. Looking at Feisty's <a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+specs" rel="nofollow">specs</a>, it seems like it'll be a great release, too. Hope some of it will find its way into Debian... (like the OOo spellcheck/thesauri work) Glad to hear that, Martin — especially as Ubuntu is set to be release in seven days, if I’m not mistaken. Looking at Feisty’s specs, it seems like it’ll be a great release, too. Hope some of it will find its way into Debian… (like the OOo spellcheck/thesauri work)

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Martin McWhorter http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-74 Martin McWhorter Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:21:18 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-74 *Fix for apt wanting to replace tora with the Ubuntu tora package* I don't know if this works with Edgy or Dapper as I just upgraded to Feisty beta today (update-manager -d). Good news is that with Feisty you do not need the --force-depends-version to install. Try this on Edgy or Dapper as well, it should work: vim /etc/apt/preferences (new file) and create these three lines: Package: tora Pin: version 1.3.21-3 Pin-Priority: 1001 Now do a: aptitude update && aptitude upgrade See! It does not tell you that it wants to upgrade tora to the Ubuntu repository version. The orange icon in the corner telling you to upgrade tora should go away too. *Fix for apt wanting to replace tora with the Ubuntu tora package*

I don’t know if this works with Edgy or Dapper as I just upgraded to Feisty beta today (update-manager -d). Good news is that with Feisty you do not need the –force-depends-version to install.

Try this on Edgy or Dapper as well, it should work:
vim /etc/apt/preferences

(new file) and create these three lines:
Package: tora
Pin: version 1.3.21-3
Pin-Priority: 1001

Now do a:
aptitude update && aptitude upgrade

See! It does not tell you that it wants to upgrade tora to the Ubuntu repository version. The orange icon in the corner telling you to upgrade tora should go away too.

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-47 ludoa Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:04:22 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-47 Sorry to hear that Martin. Maybe someone else who manages to install it using the longer explanation on my blog post can build Ubuntu packages of it. Other than that, I could try running an Ubuntu live cd, and compiling new TOra packages against Ubuntu's libqt, etc. Edit: just thought of this, AFAIK it should be possible to build static packages. Those will be bigger (maybe slower too?) but since they don't link against outside libraries, it should work I think. Anyone an idea of how I can build such static binaries? Ludo Sorry to hear that Martin. Maybe someone else who manages to install it using the longer explanation on my blog post can build Ubuntu packages of it. Other than that, I could try running an Ubuntu live cd, and compiling new TOra packages against Ubuntu’s libqt, etc.

Edit: just thought of this, AFAIK it should be possible to build static packages. Those will be bigger (maybe slower too?) but since they don’t link against outside libraries, it should work I think. Anyone an idea of how I can build such static binaries?

Ludo

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Martin McWhorter http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-46 Martin McWhorter Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:07:15 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-46 Ludoa, I can't recommend using the feisty dependencies in edgy anymore. It seemed to cause even more inconsistencies unless I wanted to completely upgrade to the development branch. Now I just keep the tora-with-oracle package and re install dpkg after installing any new pacages or updates with apt/aptitude as it will replace the tora with the Ubuntu package. Ludoa,

I can’t recommend using the feisty dependencies in edgy anymore. It seemed to cause even more inconsistencies unless I wanted to completely upgrade to the development branch.

Now I just keep the tora-with-oracle package and re install dpkg after installing any new pacages or updates with apt/aptitude as it will replace the tora with the Ubuntu package.

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-45 ludoa Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:09:18 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-45 I uploaded the package to divShare. The URL is http://www.divshare.com/download/165774-eb3 . I don't know for how long it'll be available there, however, so mirrors are still more than welcome. Edit: some more mirrors, as I have no idea how long these will all last: http://mihd.net/pbvq4x http://senduit.com/4d9c0a (BTW http://divShare.com is a great site for this kind of stuff - not as nice as http://dropboks.com , but very cool none the less.) I uploaded the package to divShare. The URL is http://www.divshare.com/download/165774-eb3 . I don’t know for how long it’ll be available there, however, so mirrors are still more than welcome.

Edit: some more mirrors, as I have no idea how long these will all last:
http://mihd.net/pbvq4x
http://senduit.com/4d9c0a

(BTW http://divShare.com is a great site for this kind of stuff - not as nice as http://dropboks.com , but very cool none the less.)

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-44 ludoa Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:23:13 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-44 Martin McWorther found a fix for those having problems with Ubuntu: ----------------- More on tora-with-oracle on Edgy. Ok, so after I installed and got Tora with Oracle working using the --force-depends-version, I notices that some of the auto update, apt-get and aptitude would fail because of the depend version inconsistancy. So I figured this easy fix, Install the newer 3:3.3.7 libqt3-mt from the feisty development tree 1. Add this line to /etc/apt/source.list deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted 2. run apt-get install -f This will solve the dependancy by installing the feisty libqt3-mt and its dependencies from feisty. 3. Comment the line out of source.list so you don't accidentally upgrade your distribution version. There may be an easier way to get the deb database to live with the version inconsistency. I am very new to the debian world, being a Redhat guy for eight years. -m ----------------- Thanks a lot Martin! Martin McWorther found a fix for those having problems with Ubuntu:
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More on tora-with-oracle on Edgy.

Ok, so after I installed and got Tora with Oracle working using the –force-depends-version, I notices that some of the auto update, apt-get and aptitude would fail because of the depend version inconsistancy.

So I figured this easy fix,

Install the newer 3:3.3.7 libqt3-mt from the feisty development tree

1. Add this line to /etc/apt/source.list
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted

2. run
apt-get install -f
This will solve the dependancy by installing the feisty libqt3-mt and its dependencies from feisty.

3. Comment the line out of source.list so you don’t accidentally upgrade your distribution version.

There may be an easier way to get the deb database to live with the version inconsistency. I am very new to the debian world, being a Redhat guy for eight years.

-m
—————–

Thanks a lot Martin!

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/01/tora-with-oracle-on-debian/#comment-43 ludoa Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:19:57 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/01/tora-with-oracle-on-debian/#comment-43 Glad to hear that, Mark. Glad to hear that, Mark.

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-42 ludoa Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:19:14 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-42 Martin: great, thanks for posting that. It does make apt annoying, yep. I'm surprised Ubuntu doesn't update its packages more often, I thought it was relatively bleeding edge? Anyway, that's another reason to move to the real thing - Debian GNU/Linux ;-) Serpini: yes, the site seems to be having a lot of problems. Could somebody please mirror them? I'll gladly e-mail the packages to anyone who wants to mirror them. Oh, and if someone knows a decent free shell account, I'm always interested. Martin: great, thanks for posting that. It does make apt annoying, yep.
I’m surprised Ubuntu doesn’t update its packages more often, I thought it was relatively bleeding edge?
Anyway, that’s another reason to move to the real thing - Debian GNU/Linux ;-)

Serpini: yes, the site seems to be having a lot of problems. Could somebody please mirror them? I’ll gladly e-mail the packages to anyone who wants to mirror them.

Oh, and if someone knows a decent free shell account, I’m always interested.

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by serpini http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-33 serpini Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:02:59 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-33 please, the site is down! please, the site is down!

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Martin McWhorter http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-32 Martin McWhorter Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:39:05 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-32 dpkg --force-depends-version -i tora-with-oracle_1.3.21-3_i386.deb This command works for me. Unfortunately it leaves the deb/apt in an inconsistent state. dpkg –force-depends-version -i tora-with-oracle_1.3.21-3_i386.deb

This command works for me. Unfortunately it leaves the deb/apt in an inconsistent state.

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by david http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-31 david Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:20:00 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-31 Any luck with this? If anyone has installed on edgy by building from source or by installing libqt3-mt 3.3.7 please post. Any luck with this? If anyone has installed on edgy by building from source or by installing libqt3-mt 3.3.7 please post.

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Piyush Jain http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-29 Piyush Jain Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:29:22 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-29 I got this when tried to run with --force-depends-version flag dpkg: error processing tora-with-oracle_1.3.21-3_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: tora-with-oracle_1.3.21-3_i386.deb I got this when tried to run with –force-depends-version flag

dpkg: error processing tora-with-oracle_1.3.21-3_i386.deb (–install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
tora-with-oracle_1.3.21-3_i386.deb

]]> Comment on Alky project dead? by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/alky-project-dead/#comment-28 ludoa Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:59:34 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/alky-project-dead/#comment-28 It's no longer open source unfortunately. There's flash video on their site (also cached by google) which shows a game running on OS X. Seems slow, but it works... I'm very surprised they managed so much so quickly. It’s no longer open source unfortunately. There’s flash video on their site (also cached by google) which shows a game running on OS X. Seems slow, but it works… I’m very surprised they managed so much so quickly.

]]> Comment on Alky project dead? by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/alky-project-dead/#comment-27 ludoa Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:56:01 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/alky-project-dead/#comment-27 Thanks jeff, the URL is dead at the moment, I'll check it out later. Google does cache some of its pages, it's indeed the same project, thanks a lot! Their homepage links to an announce group (http://groups.google.com/group/alkyproject-announce/subscribe) which is still called "alky project announcements" so it's definitely the same thing - thanks! Thanks jeff, the URL is dead at the moment, I’ll check it out later.
Google does cache some of its pages, it’s indeed the same project, thanks a lot!
Their homepage links to an announce group (http://groups.google.com/group/alkyproject-announce/subscribe) which is still called “alky project announcements” so it’s definitely the same thing - thanks!

]]> Comment on Alky project dead? by jeff http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/alky-project-dead/#comment-25 jeff Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:36:26 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/alky-project-dead/#comment-25 I think the project is takin over by http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/ I think the project is takin over by http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-21 ludoa Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:52:50 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-21 I'm sure it's only temporary. Either way, I mailed you the file. If anyone else needs it, e-mail me (see my about page for my address). I’m sure it’s only temporary. Either way, I mailed you the file. If anyone else needs it, e-mail me (see my about page for my address).

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Stephen Crowley http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-20 Stephen Crowley Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:37:36 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-20 Argh, the site is down! Argh, the site is down!

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by Martin McWhorter http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-19 Martin McWhorter Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:36:06 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-19 Ludoa, I interpreted Nerijus' post as saying that that it would install, but not work. I will try it. Unfortunately, rootshell.be seems to be down right now. If you can email me the deb packages (with and w/out KDE) that would be great. My browser put them in /tmp, so I don't have them this morning :( -m Ludoa,

I interpreted Nerijus’ post as saying that that it would install, but not work. I will try it. Unfortunately, rootshell.be seems to be down right now. If you can email me the deb packages (with and w/out KDE) that would be great. My browser put them in /tmp, so I don’t have them this morning :(

-m

]]> Comment on tora with oracle on debian/ubuntu — prebuilt package by ludoa http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-17 ludoa Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:00:46 +0000 http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/tora-with-oracle-on-debianubuntu-prebuilt-package/#comment-17 Martin, What about --force-depends-version? Re-reading Nerijus' post, I'm not sure how to interpret it... i.e. does it work fine, and is the only problem that apt is complaining about it? If so, I suppose there's a way around this, so you can make apt keep quiet about it. Also, as I previously mentioned, getting Debian's libqt3 packages might work. If it doesn't work, you could just revert to Ubuntu's packages. Doesn't Ubuntu have a repository with more up-to-date/experimental packages where you could find a more recent version of libqt3? HTH, Ludo Martin,
What about –force-depends-version? Re-reading Nerijus’ post, I’m not sure how to interpret it… i.e. does it work fine, and is the only problem that apt is complaining about it? If so, I suppose there’s a way around this, so you can make apt keep quiet about it.
Also, as I previously mentioned, getting Debian’s libqt3 packages might work. If it doesn’t work, you could just revert to Ubuntu’s packages.
Doesn’t Ubuntu have a repository with more up-to-date/experimental packages where you could find a more recent version of libqt3?

HTH,
Ludo

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